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Pistachio · Jan 24, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

I agree that trading needs to be improved in the game. There's not good way to buy or sell items other than spamming the trade channel.

The system you mentioned sounds great.

I was also thinking, it might be nice if you could flag items in your inventory as "for sale" along with a price. Whenever you went into a town, you could look and see what was for sale in that district by opening up a certain trade window or something(depending on who has flagged what). If you see something you like, simply message the player and work out a trade.

Bahumhat · Jan 24, 2006, 03:10 AM // 03:10

Also while you are sitting, and stuff. you say "Selling Wands, Staffs, Swords, all gold and max, near Storage" It would auto say it every 3 minutes

when people come near you, a little pop-up of some sort would reveal your first 2 items in your "Chest"

PieXags · Jan 24, 2006, 03:31 AM // 03:31

Couple threads merged. Going to see about getting this placed in the Index.

Arcane De Farad · Jan 24, 2006, 09:18 AM // 09:18

/signed

I <3 shops

Xenrath · Jan 24, 2006, 09:47 AM // 09:47

I have a much better idea, which involves shotguns!

Have a "trading post" town/outpost as mentioned above. The only thing that works in that place is the trade channel, so everyone is forced to actually use it.

Next part of the plan, is to pass a worldwide law banning the infestation of trade in other more nicer areas, which means people buying/selling elsewhere get blown to bits by an army of necrid horsemen all carrying sawn off shotguns! For continuity's sake these weapons are Monster Elites and called "ye olde boomstick!"

Oh yeah, if anyone in the trade post attempts to do anything apart from WTS WTS WTB WTB, they get a visit from the boomstick army.

but seriously, I think this is what the auction house will be by the sounds of it - just a giant shop everyone can use (thus avoiding the lag problems and so forth mentioned above)

Gorebrex · Jan 24, 2006, 03:02 PM // 15:02

Having people setting up shops(a small stand actually) isnt such a bad idea. I play another MMORPG that lets you do just that, hell, just last night, I set up a stand, put items on display along with their prices, typed sellers message(auto-displayed by server, no need to spam), saying I have "such and such"- AFK, went to bed. Sold 2 items, easy.

Thermo · Jan 24, 2006, 04:11 PM // 16:11

An auction house would be better, something close to the WoW AH would be best since that is pretty decent example of a good AH. It would take away most of the WTB and WTS. Shops just seem too abusable, aka the 441 thing. The server lag in LA with 200 people setting up their shops would be an issue. Also I don't want my fair streets littered with street urchins peddling their wares.

/not signed

fallot · Jan 24, 2006, 04:36 PM // 16:36

I've played a few small free-to-play MMOs geared towards an asian audience and most of them have some sort of a "shop" mechanic. However, this doesnt reduce trade chat at all, people who want to sell their goods immediately will still spam, and you havent considered that people would want to advertise their shops too... more spam.

The Auction House system would be best.

Gorebrex · Jan 24, 2006, 05:40 PM // 17:40

Theres no chance of saying somethings a 441 if its a 44(as example) in the game I mentioned, because you get a popup desription window on the item, meaning you cant just SAY you have something, the buyer will see it in popup, like when you look at item in trade now, or just mouse over an item in your inventory.

Green Onions · Jan 29, 2006, 10:18 PM // 22:18

Although I must agree that an auction house would probably work better I want to give my interpretation of the shop system. What I have in mind is Guild Shops – meaning each guild gets an opportunity to rent a shop which would have upkeep (monthly or weekly). Each member of a given guild can submit an item for sale and would receive 90% (or 80%) of the sale while the rest goes into the guild. The guild finances are used for paying taxes for the shop and buying new upgrades for the Guild Hall (if there are new upgrades). What is left of the guild finances could be divided equally among the member of the guild or it could just stay there and gather dust until a rainy day comes.

The second point would be to give players the ability to browse trough shops quickly by an uniform system with strict categories and search options.

Since there are less guilds than players there would be much less shops than a personal shop system, and the upkeep would guarantee serious shops would stay in business, and poor shops would bankrupt. Would this lower the amount of spam in the city channels, well I don’t think so, but it would give many players more time to play the game, instead of wasting precious hours or even day trying to buy or sell a certain item.

pappayaponta · Jan 30, 2006, 08:28 AM // 08:28

NOOOOOOOOOOO, This would RUIN cities. I've seen this in pristontale and it actually destroyed the cities and it lagged like hell. Just wait for Anet's auction system instead!!!

/Not Signed

Nevin · Jan 30, 2006, 02:07 PM // 14:07

Unlike the other MMO's there should be private shop specific areas though to create an open market feel.. Like you all know the little merchant stretch in Lion's Arch, how about having that area between the signs be a zone for private shops. Private shops/Auction House. NEED TO BE ADDED TO THE GAME. /signed

WasAGuest · Jan 30, 2006, 03:45 PM // 15:45

I would like the option to hand an item over to an NPC shopkeeper who would then sell the item to another player. Then, when I return to the NPC shopkeeper, I am handed the money if it sold. Maybe not 100% of the sale, but a good deal of it. That way I wouldn't have to worry about selling/wasting my time trying to sell it myself. That's just me, and I find marketing stuff extremely dull and currently just sell everything to NPCs for a massive loss.
As for how the price is set... no clue as to how this would work, but I'm just looking for a way to sell stuff without a hands on system.
In EQ, the bazaar worked well for me. I would put the stuff on a char and walk away from the PC over night. When I came back, my stuff was either sold or not.

Gorebrex · Jan 30, 2006, 06:43 PM // 18:43

I also liked the way it was done in SWG. There wer terminals where you would place item(s), set time of auction, a minimum bid, and walk away. Youd get a "tell" saying "So and So" has bought your "blah blah", which allowed me to thank that person for the purchase(just a nice touch).

EnigmaticAnomaly · Jan 31, 2006, 03:04 AM // 03:04

/signed

I am SOO tired of going to a town and not being able to even LOOK at the screen without getting a major headache, because of the massive trade spamming...I support any and all solutions to this problem as long as it reduces the trade spam and helps me find anything at all that is even similar to what I am looking for to buy...

Criminally Sane · Jan 31, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

/signed... maybe they could cap the number of shops that could be open in one district at once or something, so that the streets wouldn't be cluttered with afk merchants. :x I dunno, but I like this idea of personal shops even if there are some potential issues.

Ken Dei · Jan 31, 2006, 05:22 AM // 05:22

"Signet of Approval"

Bhaaltazar · Jan 31, 2006, 12:35 PM // 12:35

I had an idea about trading in a post from a week ago or soo...

Instead of all this confusion about WTS, WTT( bunch of bonuses, health, bla bla bla nobody wants to read... ) i woul prefer to have CTRL + Click item sistem.. That would mean that what ever u want to sell u vould ctrl click it and a link( name and color of item ) would apear... when u see something of interest u would see the stats ( like if u set cursor on your current gear )

u could ctrl click all items u wanted to sell like this... and there wouldnt be so many confusion in trade window ( same colors, not knowing what color r they selling....... ).. if u would be interested in greens u could see the green links, gsame with gold etc...

I think any other system would be better than one we r forced to use right now...

generik · Jan 31, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bhaaltazar

I had an idea about trading in a post from a week ago or soo...

Instead of all this confusion about WTS, WTT( bunch of bonuses, health, bla bla bla nobody wants to read... ) i woul prefer to have CTRL + Click item sistem.. That would mean that what ever u want to sell u vould ctrl click it and a link( name and color of item ) would apear... when u see something of interest u would see the stats ( like if u set cursor on your current gear )

u could ctrl click all items u wanted to sell like this... and there wouldnt be so many confusion in trade window ( same colors, not knowing what color r they selling....... ).. if u would be interested in greens u could see the green links, gsame with gold etc...

I think any other system would be better than one we r forced to use right now...

This sounds awfully like the idea they had in WoW.

Bhaaltazar · Jan 31, 2006, 01:18 PM // 13:18

not just in WoW in few others as well... What works great doesnt need to be fix or re-invented though....